[LINK] - LaFleur - 03-04-09
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LaFleur - 03-04-09 Sawyer perpetuates a lie with some of the other island survivors in order to protect themselves from mistakes of the past. http://abc.go.co....t/index?pn=index * UPDATE * Unfortunately, because we had such a jammed show today, we did NOT have time for our Lost chat. We'll try to do one tomorrow morning from Jack Frost. We apologize! Here's a cool pictures of The Statue With Four Toes: http://www.prest....ctures/14194.jpg
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  1. ZipZapp 420 posted on 03/04/2009 04:53 PM
    A connection I found... Hurley was drawing a Sphinx...This could possibly have some reference to the book The Time Machine by H.G. Wells, in which the Time Traveler goes far into the future and there is a large Sphinx near the spot he lands. Anyone else care to expand on this?
  2. lutton posted on 03/04/2009 07:12 PM
    FYI: I noticed the replay of the previous episode was edited slightly; they cut out the part where Caesar lies about finding the shotgun and says he found a flashlight instead. I doubt they'd cut anything truly critical, but still, the replays could be missing some odds and ends.
  3. Joeyd posted on 03/04/2009 08:19 PM
    The sphinx had four toes! Sphinxes were revered as temple guardians also as harbingers of bad luck and destruction.
  4. Di5 posted on 03/04/2009 08:19 PM
    I love Miles!
  5. bette posted on 03/04/2009 08:33 PM
    W T F F F F F F F F F F !!!!!!!!!!!!
  6. lost posted on 03/04/2009 09:05 PM
    great show.. what is happening next weekend that lost wont be on????
  7. Josh posted on 03/04/2009 09:06 PM
    Since when did Lost become Life On Mars? That 70's Lost Show? C'mon. Let's get some some old questions answered before getting a whole new cast. Meh. Me no like. Bad medicine.
  8. hmmmm posted on 03/04/2009 09:07 PM
    is that new born ben?
  9. RunFatPat posted on 03/04/2009 09:14 PM
    sooooooooo..... when Ben and his father arrive on the island in a few year......do you kill Ben? Richard, for being there all along sure doesn't seem to know as much as Ben used to know about the island
  10. lostdivanista posted on 03/04/2009 09:29 PM
    My thoughts as of Now. _What is the truce between Dharma an Others. _ DAMN i cried when I saw that statue...t is def someone we know.. it looked like a woman and also very indian esc, myan, maybe even egyiptian. - did you catch that they were SENDING the women off the isladn to have their babies??? _I think that when goodwins wife said Juilet looked just like her,( on why Ben brought her to the island) she was referring to the one woman who was able to deliever a baby on the island.. Juliet. _ I hate kate!! and I am pumping my fist for Team Sawliet.. sawyer stay away from KAte please live happy with Juliet!! PLEASE!!!!! _ Ben could not be zapped back with Jack and Kate cause he would run into his young self. _ It was creepy how daniel looked at young charlotte.. MOM keep an eye on her.. daniel is already has that creapy pedophile look going for him.. Finally I am TIred of the half naked chicks on the right side of my screen.. It's nasty
  11. pq posted on 03/04/2009 09:35 PM
    I wonder if the newborn is Daniel? It can't be Ben because we saw him being born off the island. His mother dies in childbirth and his dad being in a big depression moves to the island and gets upset that he is assigned a job as a janitor. I know that we have seen the necklace before. I just don't remember on who (or whom).
  12. Cdog1138 posted on 03/04/2009 09:42 PM
    I am wondering what Paul and Amy were doing that caused two Others/Hostiles to break the truce and shoot Paul. And how is Sawyer and the crew living with the Dharma initiative for three years not going to be realized later in time? Especially with Jack, Kate, and Hurley showing up. But.... is it possible that Daniel Faraday's conversation with Desmond has actually made it possible to change history? Is that why Ms. Hawkings is so set on convincing Desmond he needs to go back to the Island? Remember, Daniel tells Desmond he is different. How do the Losties stuck in the 70's get back to real time? Is it the Incident that is mentioned on the blast door map? Does Ben show up on the Island before they jump back in time. If they have the chance to kill him, do they? Or, do they realize he has a roll to play and must let him live? Hope to hear some more LOST actors calling into the P&S show. I miss that.
  13. SKe posted on 03/04/2009 09:54 PM
    Ben will live because what happened happened. The baby has to be someone we know. It think it is Desmond. Desmond is the first (only) child to be born on the island that we know of and is immune to the rules of time and can "change the future".
  14. Ireland posted on 03/04/2009 09:56 PM
    OMG Lost actually made me cry! Not once but twice, when Daniel saw LITTLE Charlotte!!! and the expression on Sawyer's face when Kate came out from behind Hurley. Also how much do we love Juliet now? She was so sweet to Daniel!
  15. Cdog1138 posted on 03/04/2009 10:16 PM
    I started re-watching the episode and freeze framed the shot of the giant statue. It has what appears to be an Ankh in each hand. Same as the Ankh necklace Paul was wearing that Amy took off of him before they gave the body to Richard. Strong Egyptian overtones with this episode.
  16. Eric posted on 03/04/2009 10:44 PM
    The only question I want answered right now is WHY IS LOST NOT ON NEXT WEEK!?!?!?!? I can't go 2 weeks with out my fix. I'll get you ABC!
  17. Gina Bean posted on 03/05/2009 12:13 AM
    I may be crazy here but does anyone remember that LeFleur was one of the dead bodies in that mass grave after the other and killed the dharma colony? Anyone got any thoughts?
  18. scott posted on 03/05/2009 04:17 AM
    I think that the leaders of the others is sort of like a fall guy, they tell them that they are the leaders but all along its the guy with the eye liner. whith the not aging thing i think that he may be some mytical god or somthing......
  19. metoo posted on 03/05/2009 05:51 AM
    i love the one liners they gave sawyer on this episode...especially the one about richards eyeliner...they must know america is asking if he does truly wear eyeliner... I do believe that LeFleur was one fo the bodies in the mass grave...isnt it the one john found the gun in that he was going to commit suicide with before walt came by and stopped him? I have sawyers glasses...not a good choice!! I also am sick of looking at half naked chics on my computer as well..i just want to read about LOST...not to look at girls with no respect for themselves.
  20. Fred posted on 03/05/2009 06:07 AM
    At Dark UFO they have pictures from an upcoming episode that makes it look like Sun is the woman with Lapidus. It also seems to show that they are not in the past with Kate, Jack and Hurly but in whatever time Lock is. It also make it look like Sun may be seeing Christian and he may be showing her an old Dharma photo. Possibly with Jin in it?
  21. girty posted on 03/05/2009 06:38 AM
    who ever the baby is, has to be younger than Charlotte. we see her running with her mom when Daniel sees her. Shes about what 5 or 6? So who ever this baby is has to be younger than her. that would leave out Ethan, Ben, Miles, and alot of others.
  22. jerZmom posted on 03/05/2009 08:14 AM
    I'm so stupid! It just occurred to me that when they flew back the second time, John was dead. The plane crashes, John's alive. The first time they flew, Christian was dead. The plane crashes, Christian's alive. OY! I'm way to SLOW to watch Lost! lol P & S rocks!
  23. JR posted on 03/05/2009 08:34 AM
    Does anyone think the new born be Desmond?
  24. Steve posted on 03/05/2009 08:39 AM
    http://img3.imag....236237056832.jpg The statue is from Egypt and it is called Taueret. This deity supposedly suckled and protected the newborn. Look at the similarities of that statue to ours in Lost. Hence why people were able to have children on the island at one point. Maybe this was a protecting force that crumbled after the Purge.
  25. Steve posted on 03/05/2009 08:41 AM
    What if the baby being born is in fact Jacob? Horace built the cabin in the woods prior to the Purge so maybe he and Amy took the boy to the cabin and then the Purge took place and Jacob, being the last born on the island, remained in that cabin.
  26. Quay posted on 03/05/2009 08:48 AM
    Maybe I'm crazy, but I thought that when Sawyer was talking to Horace he asked him where were you when I was being born. Horace is Sawyer's dad. I wonder if Sawyer is going to save his baby self from the purge. I wouldn't be surprised if he puts the baby on the sub and the baby gets adopted.
  27. Germ posted on 03/05/2009 08:56 AM
    Ben said Charlotte was born in 1979. If it's 1974 when the time travelers go to Dharma, that little girl can't be Charlotte.
  28. murff posted on 03/05/2009 08:58 AM
    I just read a comment above that said "Desmond is the first (only) child to be born on the island." Where the hell are you getting your information? It's NEVER been established that Desmond was born on the island. The only person we know was born on the island was Aaron.
  29. Mollyshero posted on 03/05/2009 09:04 AM
    maybe I missed something. Isn't Goodwin the guy that Juliet was with in Season 1 that was killed. One of the guys Ben sends off to check on the plane wreck. He could have been 34 years old. And now Juliet is delivering him.
  30. c-dog posted on 03/05/2009 09:07 AM
    I'm not sure I like the direction that this is taking....MORE characters. I agree that some things need to be tied up before that add more layers to the puzzle. Does anyone think that OFF the island it is really in the 70's? That would mean that the world the oceanic 6 (or 5 without Aaron) just came from no longer exists! AHHHHH!
  31. jughead posted on 03/05/2009 09:14 AM
    ok, so that show really has me thinking. agreeing with other posts regarding what will happen when ben arrives on the island? although last night we were shown that women give birth on the island, they mentioned that they always sent the women off the island to give birth. did something happen to cause them to do this or did they just figure they'd have better medical care off the island? the chick dancing in the beginning of the show was wearing a geronimo jackston shirt.
  32. Paul posted on 03/05/2009 09:36 AM
    Tauret? I believe so.....this picture look at the things crutches or whatever they are. It's the same thing Paul wore around his neck!!! http://www.cosmo....uret01_small.jpg
  33. Collleen posted on 03/05/2009 09:49 AM
    WOW! well I do have to go ONDEMAND and watch the first 10 minutes. I was stuck in traffic on the way home and got in after the first commercial break... DAAAAAAAAH! Also, so not happy with the fact that we have to wait two weeks. I do think, tho, that we are going to get a MAJOR payoff in the next episode. We always have gotten a sentimental episode followed by one with a bunch of WTF moments in past seasons. At least that's what I'll tell myself to get me by next week lol I need to see the Four Toed Statue obviously, but what I heard about it sounds amazingly cool. The Egyptian theme with the ankh is very interesting too. Now the question is: was the statue put there from a visiting people that found the island at some time in history? Or did the Others/hostiles build it for some reason? does it have something to do with Jacob? WHERE IS JACOB BTW? And also, just to throw something out there: what if the Island has been around since the beginning of Earth? If the properties of the island caused it to jump around in time and space, it could have been accessible to any number of cultures over the last couple thousand years. An Atlantis type deal maybe? An ancient island that didn't disappear as Atlantis did, but literally disappears... just a thought. and a stretch im sure. I just think they're heading to a black hole/negative energy type thing. Yes, we've all been throwing that theory around since Season 1, but they keep giving us clues that validate that idea. *sigh* just have to be patient. TWO MORE WEEKS!
  34. maw2008 posted on 03/05/2009 10:46 AM
    Keep in mind that when the Losties first stop flashing and are in the Dharma camp, Sawyer says it's 1974. When we go forward, "three years later" to when Amy is having the baby, it's 1977, so whoever she gave birth to is only 32 years old. It could be Sawyer, but I always saw him as older than that. I don't think it's Daniel or Ben either. Supposedly we find out fairly soon who the boy is, though. I also agree that it looked like the statue was holding an ankh, which is the Egyptian symbol for eternal life, which begs the question, on that flash, just how far back in time did they go if the statue was not a ruin and who built it--Richard's peeps (since Mr. Eyeliner refuses to age)?
  35. lostgirl5 posted on 03/05/2009 10:51 AM
    If you recall... Goodwin was also the person John Locke saw in the woods a season or two back when he was looking for Jacob's cabin.. John thought he was hallucinating when Goodwin appeared. What was odd then, and what makes sense now, is that Goodwin also had a bloody nose.... pehaps John has been time travelling all along??
  36. reereegrl posted on 03/05/2009 11:02 AM
    From what I gathered watching last nite's episode, everyone now appears to be in the same time 70s time period on the island. Sawyer, Juliet, et al, integrated themselves with the Dharma people following the final "flash" ; now it is 3 years later, and there has been another plane crash (with a flash) that returned Hurley, Kate, et al to the island where they have just been found by Jin. That plane was flown by Lapidus, we don't know exactly where he is just yet.........just that he took off with some woman. Locke's body was also on that plane and he appeares to have miraculously resurrected and is on another part of the island with the other survivors of the crash who obviously don't remember him being on the plane b/c he was in a COFFIN........but I believe they are in the same time period as well. I don't believe the baby is Desmond, it was never established that he was born on the island, just that he is somehow "different- the rules don't apply to him".
  37. Philly LOST Nut posted on 03/05/2009 11:53 AM
    One thing that I think might be important that I haven't seen posted yet, when Daniel said that whatever happened, happened...well Sawyer, Juliet & crew came across Amy and Paul having a picnic and Paul was killed with Amy getting a bag put over her head. If this scenario was played out without Sawyers crew rescuing Amy, she would not have been around to have a child. Therefore, I think that this child is someone that will change the future for good? Also, we met Horace a few seasons ago when Ben was born (off the Island), he was with his significant other Olivia so has this 'intervention' by Sawyer and crew completely changed the course of things to happen? I hope we find out.
  38. Jersey Jess posted on 03/05/2009 12:23 PM
    My question: where is Sayid? We know that Jack, Kate, and Hurley are together and that they connected with Jin and have just re-encountered Sawyer. We *think* that Sun *may* be with Lapidus as Sun is nowhere to be found and some woman went off with him in a boat. However, where is Sayid?? He was handcuffed on the flight (was he handcuffed to the girl from the beginning of last week's episode about Locke or just to himself?) and he is nowhere to be found... Two weeks is a long Lost time...sigh.
  39. Philly LOST Nut posted on 03/05/2009 12:30 PM
    One more thing: The necklace that Amy took off of Paul's body is called the Ahka, it looks like the giant statue is holding one in each hand: http://images2.w....FourToedFull.jpg I read it's the symbol for eternal life/fertility pretty import for our storyline.
  40. Alaine posted on 03/05/2009 12:47 PM
    I think Richard Alpert is dead, just like Christian Shepard. That would certainly explain why Richard doesn't seem to age. Perhaps Richard's people, the hostiles, are the reincarnation of all who die on the island.
  41. JENY2124 posted on 03/05/2009 01:20 PM
    A thought I had: Widmore tells Locke he has to be back on the island for the war that is coming or the wrong side will WIN. Maybe Widmore is trying to change the outcome of the initial "war" between Dharma and the Others - obviously the Others won when it happened and we see the Dharma mass grave.
  42. MOOSE posted on 03/05/2009 01:29 PM
    well it was cool to see the statue and it looks like it might be that goddess, but have to ask why it would be on the island something doesn't seem right by it. i do have to say that they are not adding characters that they are just telling there stories now. we have been seening this people from the past episodes but they have either been corpses or ghosts. i think that sawyer has changed history but according to daniel's mom thats not possible. that no matter what you do fate always takes over and rights itself. as for the baby its not the last one cause we see a baby from the doctor whether it was born on the island or not we don't know but this does explain why we saw daniel with the building of the orchid. and for all those people that didn't pay attention to the episode they said that they send the mothers back to the main land because they nobody has the experience on the island to give birth. they are in the middle of a jungle on an island that moves the dharma group only puts people that is need on the island for its work. they don't need doctors just people with enough medical knowledge to give first aid so that they can get them to a hospital off the island. and for my last point the brownies think were laced with weed. so comes john's experience with the drug runners and that the islands real purpose is for the growing of recerational drugs so that the dea can never find them and stop there interenational drug ring.
  43. Dan posted on 03/05/2009 01:55 PM
    At this point of the show, where are Rose, Bernard, the Professer and Marianne? But seriously, where are Rose and Bernard and everyone else?
  44. maw2008 posted on 03/05/2009 02:22 PM
    I sent my husband the pic of the statue and the Eqyptian goddess statue next to it that people are theorizing it is (the pregnant one). He suggested that the statue on the island could be that of Anubis, who is the god of the dead and the god of embalming (coincidentally, Anubis is also frequently depicted holding an ankh...just like the one Paul was wearing). If you look at statues of Anubis from the back, it is certainly plausible that that is what the statue could be as well. Another interesting piece of Eqyptian mythology is Horus (spelled slightly differently than our "Horace"), who is the god of the sky, but best known for being the protector of the ruler of Eqypt. Horus became a symbol of protection, and indeed, it seems like that's what we see Island Horace doing in terms of security, protecting "Jacob's" cabin, etc. Either way, there's A LOT going on with Egyptian symbolism and mythology, which could ALSO explain Richard in that maybe he's some sort of Eqyptian god or immortal diety (it would at least explain the eye liner, since every pic I've ever seen of ancient Eqyptians has them loaded up with the stuff).
  45. Cheech posted on 03/05/2009 02:37 PM
    Here is a thought...why not take the sub back to Tahiti, wait it out over the next 30+ years and force/coerce the 815ers not to get on that plane. Then there are no island issues. Could that be how the show ends? Can we really change the future from the past? Maybe that is why Juliet could never help children to be born since she may not have truly been there. Far fetched-no doubt but just a thought. Does the statue hold mythical powers that helps babies to be born? Once the statue is destroyed...no more babies? If LaFleur was bones in the pit, does that mean that will really be sawyer? Maybe the baby is the old radio guy from the ship? Where is Vincent? Myabe the baby is Walt, by the time this show ends he will be about 32 or at least look that way. Maybe he alters his pigment color?? Or maybe they get back to the real world and prevent everyone from getting on the plane. This show ends with all of the Losties making friends with each other and creating this crazy story while sitting in the airport bar.
  46. Quay posted on 03/05/2009 02:46 PM
    I just watched "LaFleur" again and Sawyer asks Horace, "Can you tell me why you were too busy drinking and blowing up trees to see me born?" Also some people on this blog are confusing Goodwin Stanhope with Horace Goodspeed.
  47. Kathleen posted on 03/05/2009 02:51 PM
    I think the baby Juliet helped deliver isn't any of the characters we know but part of a new loop in the timeline. When Sawyer, Juliet and the rest saved the woman who would be the baby's mother, wouldn't they have changed history? The woman was about to be kidnapped or killed by the 'hostiles' and, in the original timeline, she would never have returned to Dharma camp, therefore never got together with Horace, therefore never had his baby. Maybe I'm way off because Daniel also said it didn't matter what they did now because whatever they do, they were meant to do. But I still get the feeling they changed history by saving that woman, as well as by living in the Dharma camp. If the original timeline of the show stands and is unaffected by Sawyer and company arriving in 1974, then wouldn't Richard from 2004 have recognized Sawyer from their 1974 meeting? BTW, the eyeliner quip from Sawyer was the best line of the show last night. :)
  48. Kevin posted on 03/05/2009 03:47 PM
    I think that the baby is Desmond. It can't be sawyer because you can't have two sawyers at once!! Can you? Anyway i am loving how we are finally getting some answers and look forward to the rest of the story. i hope they don't screw this one up. p.s.- sawyer is definately not over kate.
  49. beckstead6 posted on 03/05/2009 05:34 PM
    To Quay: Sawyer said "...to see him be born..." This episode was really cool! Even though there were no big reveals in this one, I always like the ones that go back and fill in the time gaps in the story-line. I have a feeling that the Sawyer-Juliet relationship is going to get interesting now that Kate is back. AWESOME show! (PLEASE take the smut off of the side of the screen!)
  50. ana d posted on 03/05/2009 05:41 PM
    meanwhile, all i want to add is that is IS possible the amy went OFF the island at some point and got pregnant. clearly they have known for some time that people can't have babies on the island if they get preggers on the island. so maybe she got pregnant off the island and doesn't realize it. i dont think that baby is anyone we know yet. but we will see.
  51. steve posted on 03/05/2009 05:57 PM
    Locke and Ben did not leave the flight during the flash because they did not leave the island like the oceanic six. Hurley, Jack, Kate, Sayid, Jin,and the pilot dude are back in the seventies cause thats where they would have been had they never left the island. Locke, Ben and the rest of the passengers are on the Island in the present time. Remember when Sawyer and crew hopped on the rowboats in the future and the shotgun that the suspicious looking dude in the tent grabbed....
  52. steve posted on 03/05/2009 05:59 PM
    and no...Richard would not have recognized sawyer in 2006 or 7 because that was the original timeline. did't you ever see back to the future! you can change the future.
  53. guitarbob posted on 03/05/2009 07:51 PM
    Note: Everyone is bringing up the "Egyptian" theory and as I watch this episode again and laugh at the "the guy with the eyeliner" line that Sawyer used I suddenly put 2 and 2 together. Eyeliner....Egyptian.....AAAAHHAAAA. Just putting this out there but look at Richard under the light ....looks like an Egyptian to me. Also why DID Sawyer say to "to see ME born"? Was that a typo or on purpose? I listened over and over and it was a funny cut but it sure sounded like ME born. Freekin' show is going to put me in the funny farm...lol.
  54. Kevin posted on 03/05/2009 08:12 PM
    1) For some stupid reason there is 2 repeats of Scrubs on next week from 8-9 then last nights episode of Lost is on at 9. 2)It doesn't surprise me that there was no Lost talk this morning. Half of them don't even watch it anymore and annoying Kathy didn't even know that Penny was Widmore's daughter.
  55. Cam'ron posted on 03/05/2009 08:49 PM
    To all the people who think Sawyer said, "You were too busy... to see me get born," to Horace when he woke up, check your ears. He said, "...to see Amy give birth." Watch it again when it replays. And check your info before you post something incredibly wrong and just confuse everyone.
  56. Elsewhere posted on 03/05/2009 09:02 PM
    A couple of things that I haven't already seen: 1. If Charlotte remembered Faraday telling her not to come back to the Island then chances are they are only acting out the past once again. It's the same theory of time travel that was used in Terminator, you know John Connor isn't born if he doesn't send his dad back in time. So the events that are occurring now have already happened, we are just seeing them for the first time. 2. According to the DOC in Back to the Future, running into your future self with your past self or vice versa would either rip a hole in the space time continuum or cause you to pass out. 3. This is more of a question I've spend a great deal of time looking but have not been able to find any good screencaps of the mass grave, does anyone have one or know where I can found one?
  57. Lar Deluisi posted on 03/05/2009 10:52 PM
    I just watched last night's LOST. Someone earlier mentioned LeFluer being one of the bodies in the pit. He totally is!! When Ben shot Lock and pushed him in the pit, LeFluer was one of the Dead Dharma in the pit...was that Sawyer in the pit...noooo!!! I am so confused but I love it!!!!!!!!!
  58. Chris from Australia posted on 03/05/2009 11:07 PM
    As far as what Kathleen just said, i dont think history has been changed. Because remember Charlotte said to Faraday about telling her to leave the island and never ever come back, otherwise she would die. Back when she was a little girl.. Well now because of this timeline, that is entirely possible. Therefore, nothing has been changed, its just history carrying on as normal. And as far as Richard not recognising Sawyer, who said that he hasnt?
  59. Dave posted on 03/06/2009 01:52 AM
    Just had a thought after having another weird Lost dream. Christian Sheppard has to be alive. His body was dead going on a plane and after the plane crashed and the sky lit up he was brought back to life. Same thing happened to Locke, he was dead on the plane, sky lit up and bada bing bada boom, he's alive. We saw clearly in the last episode that Locke was def. alive. Sorry if this was already brought up, but couldnt see it.
  60. ana d posted on 03/06/2009 06:57 AM
    please someone tell me what you think of this......ok we are all pretty much on the same page with the egyptian theme (which i would like to point out that i mentioned a few weeks ago---time travel, pyramid buliding theory) ok so Richard Alpert is totally RA the egyptian sun god.....anyone??? ya and i am also sick of the half naked women....cant you keep that to the rest of the your site?
  61. ag posted on 03/06/2009 07:04 AM
    Where is Claire???? She may possibly be with the others/hostles
  62. T posted on 03/06/2009 07:51 AM
    The newborn is NOT Ben.
  63. Dan posted on 03/06/2009 10:38 AM
    I don't think the LeFelur in the pit is Sawyer - first, when the hostile shot Sawyer it seemed like Sawyer was surprised that he wasn't hit - almost as if he's bullet proof. Second, since Richard knows Sawyer is with Locke, then why would he kill him? It doesn't make sense.
  64. Jon posted on 03/06/2009 11:04 AM
    I was surprised Preston said it was a great episode. Good, except it raised a lot of questions since they kept jumping forward and back three years. How the heck did Sawyer get this supervisory role when they were about to boot him off of the island? They got a lot of splainin to do and now they're off a week. I don't think it's 1974 / 1977 off the island AND on the island, off the island it's still present time, or the time they took the flight to Guam. Only the island shifts in time, not the rest of the world, just my view. And who are Caesar and the other girl to be asking everyone questions like all of a sudden they're in charge of everything? No one every asked who THEY are. If I were Locke and they started asking me questions I say "Who the f are YOU??" And I never saw so many people complain about half naked chicks, chill out. Then again, why are they only half naked, lets see them all naked :-) Surprised P&S isn't too racy for you.
  65. paula posted on 03/06/2009 11:28 AM
    In the Darma Rec Room, there is a pinball machine. We didn't get a really good look at the front of it in this week's episode, but we have seen it before. It is the Cyclone (number 2 of 3 in a seriers of 3 roller-coaster themed machines) made by Williams - you will know it because Ronald and Nancy Regan are pictured riding in it on the front face. I own the same machine at home, and I love that the Lost set has used the same machine. My machine was manufactured in 1988 (I believe this model was manufactured from 1986 to 1988, but I'm not 100% positive about that), yet the same machine is clearly seen at the Darma camp in 1974. Unless someone else is time-traveling and bringing along pinball machines (we know Hurley effectively brought a guitar) this is a mistake made by the set crew. Assuming it is a mistake, It doesn't have any impact to the story line, just a fun fact I wanted to share. I agree that we have seen Paul's necklace before. Was it in Ben's hidden closet, where he had lots of passports and foreign money?
  66. Joe R. posted on 03/06/2009 11:52 AM
    The baby was definitely Aldo. That's right folks, last night we witnessed Rob McElhenney's birth.
  67. easyKeel posted on 03/06/2009 12:31 PM
    Greetings Citizens. As usual I am reading through the posts of this past week and I am amazed at how much misinformation is out there. This is not a complaint and I am not knocking anybody for being confused, but there are some things that LOST has "told" us and there are other things that fans are "hearing". Similar to Sawyer's line, "...Amy giving birth" vs. "...me being born". Thank you Cam'ron for checking that. I didn't get to go back and review it yet, but it certainly would have made NO sense AT ALL if Sawyer was saying "me being born." I am interested in checking the mass grave for LaFleur. I do believe that this is accurate because I seem to recall noticing this name at the time, as my wife is French and I seem to recall having a brief exchange about it when it occurred. Nevertheless, it was some time ago and I want to go back to the episode, I think it was "The Man Behind The Curtain." Now I want to share some time theory according to the show that some people seem to be confused about. The most important thing I'd like to point out is that Mrs. Hawking never told Desmond that he couldn't change the past. What she said was that the Universe has a way of course correcting. What this means, according to the show, is that a man's destiny cannot be changed. What brings about that destiny can be manipulated so that it might not happen like it was intended, but it will happen. For example, Charlie was suppose to die as Desmond had seen it. Everytime Desmond changed the events and interfered, the Universe would course correct so that Charlie's destiny would still happen. In a similar way, you can change the past, but you cannot expect these changes to influence the ultimate destiny of people in the future. This isn't something that our survivors have to "worry" about messing up because the Universe will course correct all on its own. When the island started moving through time and Daniel spoke to Desmond about finding his mother, Mrs. Hawking, no "rules" were violated. Desmond's destiny was not changed by these events. The only reason Desmond was unique was because he was someone in both time frames that could help Daniel. It wasn't because Desmond was his constant, it wasn't because Desmond had already been through time travel and was now "reset" in time. It was simply because he was in a position to do this - none of the others that had left were able to be contacted. This, by the way, is a unique approach to time travel that doesn't follow the usual rules that we've seen in "Back to the Future" or "Terminator". What makes this unique is the fact that the character's CAN change the past without worrying about messing up the future. They can do this because the Universe will Course Correct any important events that the writer's need to maintain, and any other changes can be dismissed as "non-essential" to anyone's destiny and therefore, do not need to be maintained. It's definitely easier for a writer to write in this "universe". There are also a lot of similarities being drawn between Christian and Locke; however, these situations are entirely different. Christian, like many of the other people who have died on the island, only appears to some and appears as a ghost. By ghost I mean he does not (and probably cannot) interact with material objects. This was why he couldn't help Locke down in the well. Locke, on the other hand, appears to be completely ressurrected - capable of being seen by all and interacting with everything. This is totally different and I think the writers want us to notice this. More importantly they want to point out that Locke is Special. It is already known that John Locke is a reference to the British Philosopher, no news there; but, Keeping in line with the biblical references, John is shortned form of Jonathon which in Hebrew mean "Yahweh has Given" or God Given. So, is Locke a God Given gift to save the world from the impending war that Widmore and Ben keep referencing? That's a big leap - but it might need to be taken. NOw, about where Lapidus went and who is with him. I don't think Sun is with Lapidus. In fact, it seems that only the Oceanic 6 (were on flight 815 AND left by way of the chopper) are in the 1977 time line. This would exclude Locke and Ben (both who left turning the wheel) and Lapidus (who didn't arrive by way of Flight 815). Jack, Hurley, Kate, Sun, and Sayid are on the 1977 time line - everyone else is in the present time line and has not experienced being unstuck in time. At this point I might believe that the flight attendant was with Lapidus - but I don't think it's going to be Sun. The statue definitely is Egyptian in design (or did Egyptian design came from it?). Regardless of who the diety is, it's carrying two Ankhs and would appear to be wearing a headress similar to that of several Egyptian dieties. We have already seen Egyptian type glyphs on the island (on the temple where the black smoke monster escaped to) and used as part of the
  68. Jersey Jess posted on 03/06/2009 12:45 PM
    As with many who've posted above, my money on the baby's identity is Desmond. It would explain why he's special and why the island "may not be done with" him yet. Also, I don't think we've ever learned about his upbringing through past episodes, right? Can others confirm? We know about him being in the army, joining a monastery, etc. but I don't think we know anything to date about his birth/childhood/etc....
  69. Bill posted on 03/06/2009 12:46 PM
    The necklace that Amy's husband had, the Ankh symbol. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Claire wear the same necklace or something similar in the first season? I'm almost positive but I can't find a still frame.
  70. jdsd posted on 03/06/2009 01:18 PM
    what if when oceanic initially crashed, they traveled back in time and thats why christian shepard was alive (he didn't die yet). thats why locke can walk( didn't get pushed out a window yet). thats why Rose doesn't have cancer yet(she didn't get it yet.......another thought. We saw the monster making the french crew"sick"....well remember in the first season, locke looking face to face with the black smoke monster. I wonder why he didn't get sick...or maybe.....ugh i don't know
  71. LM337 posted on 03/06/2009 03:15 PM
    To whoever said that the pilot is in the 70's with everybody else, wrong man. Ilana told Locke that the pilot ran off with a woman (most likely sun) with one of the boats, cause Locke wanted to get the passenger list off of him. So they're all in the same time zone together, not in the 70's with everybody else. - I also tend to think that amy's baby is a new character since she technically shouldn't be alive since Sawyer intervened with the original events, but then again who knows for sure, she still might have originally just been kidnapped and impregenated by Horace later on anyway.... - Hopefully the LaFluer body found in the pit isn't Sawyer and was just somebody else wearing the suit, otherwise that means Sawyer spent almost 20 years living from the 70's to the time when the purge happened in 1992. - Maybe Ben and Sun didn't flash to the 70's because they can't exist in the same time/place as their younger selves? Ben is already there living as a kid and perhaps Sun was there as a kid at some point for whatever reason, but thats just a a wild ass guess, still not sure on how the lost "rules of time and space" exactly work, and nobody really does for now. - I also think everybody's perception of time is uniqie to themselves, like when Faraday visited Desmond on the island and Desmond suddenly "remembered" it years later, like his whole memory was rewired, I think the same goes for other people as well not just because Desmond is special, I think his special abilities wil fully be shown later. Like I think Whidmore never originally met Locke or knew who he was, but when Locke went back in time and met him when he was 17 Whidmores future self suddenly "remembered" him, his memory was rewired too, just like Desmond's (just a theory). - The next new episode is called NAMASTE, which was seen on the welcoming sign to new recruits of Dharma when young Ben arrived to the island, so maybe it will take place around then.
  72. Jdawg posted on 03/06/2009 10:17 PM
    look everyone is writing that the baby was born in 1977 so that makes the person 32. WRONG! the show is not set in 2009. they survivors crashed in 2004 and im pretty certain the year is 2005 for them (in actual time). the baby born would be 28!
  73. Phil posted on 03/07/2009 09:38 AM
    For the people down below that don't realize it yet, Locke and crew are on the smaller island. It was the hydra station they were in last episode.
  74. Ken posted on 03/07/2009 12:52 PM
    Hey everyone, I miss you greatly now that I am in the Harrisburg Area, however I just saw Walt on a commercial for Tyson Anytisers. Don't know if this was noticed before, but i saw it for the first time today.
  75. doubleh posted on 03/07/2009 04:18 PM
    Everyone who keeps saying richard is wearing eyeliner like the egyptian gods is wrong.... i have seen him in other shows and he looks exactly the same!! he simply has an abundance of black eyelashes which make it seem like he has black eyeliner on....it looks like he does but that is the way the man really, in real life, looks like. please get over the eyeliner - egyptian thing they dont go together.
  76. bex posted on 03/07/2009 08:08 PM
    "Well, what about me? You're really gonna leave me here with The Mad Scientist and I Speak to Dead People? And Jin, who's a helluva nice guy but not exactly the greatest conversationalist. Who's gonna get my back? C'mon..." best quote of the night.
  77. Fred posted on 03/07/2009 10:29 PM
    If you go to Lost Media and look at screen captures for the next episode NAMASTE you will see Sun, Frank and Ben TOGETHER!!
  78. Jeff posted on 03/08/2009 03:57 AM
    Ok... I found something over at AR15.com that might sound completely crazy, but after reading into it a little, I have to say that this could be a valid theory.. Read the post by brucers99 on 3/5/09 with the maps. Here is the link: http://www.ar15.....&t=818942&page=5
  79. Cheech posted on 03/09/2009 01:45 AM
    So I have always been a big fan of the Stargate series amd they both kinda dance around what LOST is doing. Egyptians, time travel Atlantis, etc. Also with staying on the Egyptian note how about Richard's initials spelling out RA. In later Egyptian dynastic times, Ra was merged with the god Horus.(Horace???) Power merge coming up maybe??? Makes you wonder.
  80. Philly LOST Nut posted on 03/09/2009 12:17 PM
    Okay, here are three things I want to throw out there: 1.) I looked into the comment about Claire wearing the same necklace (Ankh) as Paul and from the screencaps I have looked through; this is not the case. The necklace she is wearing is some sort of a cat? Possibly here are the links: http://www.scree..../LostS1E2026.jpg http://gallery.l....image-3-297.html 2.) As for the people saying they remember seeing the skeleton of 'LaFleur', in the Dharma mass grave site, I went through every screencap from both 'The Man from Tallahassee' & 'Through the Looking Glass' and did not see a single name legible or any name on the bodies in the pit that Locke was left for dead in. 3.) Last thing, the statue is not around anymore in the time frame of our 70's Dharma life. Looking forward to next week.
  81. McNabb get outta here posted on 03/09/2009 02:46 PM
    Ok...I just don't get it. Is there no future? Let me make a few statements..,.... First, you let the stars leave and then bring back people with no relievence! 2nd, Once you think you have everything figured out and understand what\'s going on.....it\'s not what we thought. 3rd, they have so much money to spend and this is what they came up with so far? 4th, Our Star here is an older man, seems lost....then gets focused...get\'s hurt then gets better, loses focus again....some how gains it back, left for dead but then comes back to life ....no he is trying to motovate a bunch of people that don\'t have star quality.....how can we keep our focus as fans if we don\'t understand where this is going? I don\'t understand why we keeep McNabb around!!!!!......oh wait.... Isn\'t this \"Lost\" blog on what the Eagles are doing in this off season???? I know I\'m Lost! :) This show ROCKS!!!!
  82. MARLENE posted on 03/09/2009 05:09 PM
    so....I laughed like a little kid when Sawyer commented about Richard and his "eyeliner". HAHAHA! so...now that there is an Egyptian statue, I think that Richard is from Egyptian time.....
  83. girty posted on 03/10/2009 08:35 AM
    Philly, I did the same thing with the screencaps of the mass grave. there were no names on any of the bodies. I only saw a darhma logo and that was it. NO LAFLEUR
  84. sue posted on 03/10/2009 11:06 AM
    where are 2009 pictures of fat tuesday?
  85. Great One posted on 03/11/2009 11:30 AM
    I was reading the blog today bc there wont be an episode tonight and i needed a little lost. i dont know if people have said this or not, but I'm pretty sure that Jacob is Locke. If you go to the lost picture page of this site, look at the picture they have there of Jacob. It looks pretty clear to me that Jacob is wearing an outfit from the revolutionary time period. notice the tuft around the neck and down the front that was customary then. Also Jacob seems to be wearing an old style wig with the ponytail. Keep looking and you'll notice that Jacob is clearly bald up until the wig he has on. Also he has some stubble or growth on his chin. Now go to the picture on the same page of Locke with the stupid fake hair. Notice the stubble and shape of his chin and also the shape of his nose. It fits the Jacob picture perfectly. I have no idea y Jacob is dressed up in the revolutionary outift, but I think he looks clearly like Locke. Take a look for urselves, I want to see if anyone else thinks the same thing. Also, is everyone assuming that the new crash survivors as well as Locke did not go back in time bc they werent included in the white flash? where is that coming from?
  86. Great One posted on 03/11/2009 11:38 AM
    Links to the pictures... Jacob: http://www.prest....view.php?id=6408 Locke: http://www.prest....view.php?id=6406 Actual John Locke: https://www.1st-....n-Locke-1697.jpg Profile shot of Locke: http://profile.a....2716057_7746.jpg I looked into it further and I'm even more convinced...
  87. pork chop sandstorm posted on 03/15/2009 09:38 PM
    For the theory floating around that the flight 316 passengers ended up in two different time periods, you have to remember that the time shifts on the island had stopped after Locke reset the donkey wheel. The island went on for three years after that with no other incidents, so it doesn't make sense that the passengers on the plane would be effected by time shifts.
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